Detective Columbo
Littleton, NH
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Wowzer I have no reason or obligation to disclose the info to you or anyone else for that matter and that will never happen. Please, You believe whatever you want to because it does not make any difference to me. And Yes there is a reason for what I state on this or any forum, because it is fact and truth. Other than that I have only stated theories of what could have happened on Feb. 9th 2004. Columbo
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Wowzer
Franconia, NH
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Mason wrote: <quoted text> I absolutely agree with you about that phone call because it sure looks like the precipitating event that caused Maura to decide to drive north, assuming she, and not someone else, drove the Saturn. Philip keeps pounding away at that important point and sometimes I think she drove the Saturn and sometimes I don't. This is without doubt the most mystifying and perplexing case that I've ever seen. Not even the fertile mind of director David Lynch could think up a mystery like this. Reality is far stranger than fiction in this case. If anyone can help in this mystery it will be someone like you Mason that isn't afraid of going out on a limb and looking at different scenerios and not staying stuck on just one thing. Wishing you luck on that.
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Joined: Dec 2, 2008
Comments: 25
Saint Paul, MN
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I would like to suggest that everyone stop posting info here and do it on the new forum. It is difficult to follow when info is being posted on different places concurrently.
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Detective Columbo
Littleton, NH
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Wowzer.... And since I am not professional enough for you, I will not respond to you or comment on any more of your posts. I think this is the best way to stop the bickering. Please have a nice day....Columbo
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gotch yer screws loose
Boulder, CO
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SOM wrote: I would like to suggest that everyone stop posting info here and do it on the new forum. It is difficult to follow when info is being posted on different places concurrently. what new forum?
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White Wash
Lebanon, NH
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Wow handy piece of information I could have used years ago! Thanks! Look I'll be the first to admit that the crime in town has gone up but HELLO show me a place that doesn't have crime? Seriously I went to a school mtg and I was shocked honestly at all they have in place to help these kids! Seriously do some research and find me a state that doesn't have crime. It's everywhere suck it up! Wowzer wrote: <quoted text> At times I think reason is very much unwanted. After last nights replies I headed to the Feed and Seed Store this morning and got a can of attack duck repellant spray which I will now carry on my person whenever I am on the computer.
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White Wash
Lebanon, NH
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Then why the bring it up if you aren't will to back your statements up? Seriously do you honestly think you stating how bad we is going to send the warm fuzzy message of come help us look for a missing girl? Please come help us and hopefully one of our bad guys won't you too! DUH! Seriously the amount of time the FIT places on driving everyone into hiding does what? Why don't you get that? Detective Columbo wrote: Wowzer I have no reason or obligation to disclose the info to you or anyone else for that matter and that will never happen. Please, You believe whatever you want to because it does not make any difference to me. And Yes there is a reason for what I state on this or any forum, because it is fact and truth. Other than that I have only stated theories of what could have happened on Feb. 9th 2004. Columbo
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Joined: Dec 2, 2008
Comments: 25
Saint Paul, MN
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http:/ /find mauramurray.21 .forumer .com/ viewforum .php?f=1
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Detective Columbo
Littleton, NH
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This case has been investigated in:
NH
Massachusetts
Vermont
Maine
NY
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FireCat
United States
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Snowy White wrote: <quoted text> So, then...unless verified, the accusation is unfounded. Wowzer's request for confirmation doesn't put her on a high horse, IMHO...rather, it reflects on the 'professional' who attached his name to a statement presented as fact, but he is unwilling to back it up. Then, we have the swaggering, cop-hating Littleton poster who views her world from street-side...which must be a sub-culture that is unique to her neighborhood, and doesn't reflect the reality of Wowzer's community. None of this matters, of course, except that one must consider comments in their proper context when an agenda is evident. This conversation is interesting to read in light of the other conversation--happening simultaneously--that asks us to all be mindful of not defaming the innocent. Had Columbo put the names and addresses of those locations he had guns pointed at him, would people be jumping down his throat, accusing him of libel, or (worse yet! lol) slander?
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gotch yer screws loose
Boulder, CO
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SOM wrote: http:/ /find mauramurray.21 thanks
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sophie bean
Bristol, VT
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Sugar wrote: <quoted text>Please be more specific. What does "intentional deflection" mean? Intending what? Why? What exactly does "how interesting" mean? I'm happy to be more specific: "The same small group of (mostly wealthy) people shows up in the Bish, Murray, and Saratoga Springs cases." No reason for this vague, unreferenced, prejudicial non-comment, which has absolutely nothing to do with any discussion here and is not intended to be helpful in any way. Thank you for clarifying the point I was making, "Sugar."
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gotch yer screws loose
Boulder, CO
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FireCat wrote: <quoted text> This conversation is interesting to read in light of the other conversation--happening simultaneously--that asks us to all be mindful of not defaming the innocent. Had Columbo put the names and addresses of those locations he had guns pointed at him, would people be jumping down his throat, accusing him of libel, or (worse yet! lol) slander? Please, everyone, let's pretend we are all self important enough to actually cause serious harm to someones life because we are discussing theories on a forum, and get back to speaking in code. Enough of this nonsense.
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Detective Columbo
Littleton, NH
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This case has been investigated in:
NH
Massachusetts
Vermont
Maine
NY
And....
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sophie bean
Bristol, VT
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Wowzer wrote: Peri I have no idea where Whicheverville is. CW took 116 on his way home from Franconia. He then took a right onto 112. He went appoximately 1/2 to 3/4 of a mile and then turned left onto 116 again (this is the area 112/116 he saw the youth) which turns into Bradley Hill at the fork in road.(If he went that way which I have no way of positively knowing.) I don't see how an outside light out by SBD's would allow greater visibility. Wouldn't that make it even harder to see in total darkness? These are just my opinions. I wonder though how it is helpful to go over these same people over and over again when they have been gone over with a microscope for almost 5 years with no answers or results. Common sense tells me that no answers to finding out what happened will be found by going over these same people again and again. Now before I get accused of trying to take this in another direction I will state again this is only my opinion. If anyone want to keep kicking a dead horse by all means keep on if you think it will help. As I understand it, Whitcher Brook crosses 112 a bit more than 1 mile west of the westerly 112-116 intersection. There's a big monument there, set back from the road, about the history of Whitcherville. I'm not sure whether Whitcherville itself, with the long driveway/road and keep out signs, is off 112 or up by the sharp corner on 116, thus higher up on that hill. It was supposed to be the site of Dartmouth College.
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sophie bean
Bristol, VT
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Wowzer wrote: <quoted text> I wonder..... if you had stopped to help someone and they refused your help and then disappeared and you were questioned by the LE, then the family and then the PI's and then strangers, had your place searched and on top of all that you are accused on the internet with your name put out for everyone to see as having something to do with her disappearance and then chased down to your new retirement home in another state to be questioned by PI's even further when you have already told them all that you know wouldn't you be just a tad annoyed too???? Wowzer, those are very good points. I just don't know what to think about SBD. I keep wondering, if it really wasn't Maura at the car, and whoever it was refused the offer of help, all that SBD would know is that some female that he tried to help was rude and evasive. On the other hand, we only have his word about the nature of the interaction - no objective, verifiable proof. Still, that backs up your insistence that we not accuse anyone without knowing facts. I really want to be more senstive to how locals are feeling about this.
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sophie bean
Bristol, VT
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Detective Columbo wrote: No matter which way CW came home he would have seen something. All the lights flashing and bouncing off the Buildings, windows and snow would ba able to be seen. If he noticed this and had just seen a girl hurrying down the rd. by the intersection of 112 and 116 Benton rd. in the middle of winter at 7pm or later it might srike him as odd and maybe tell LE what he had seen. We have to remember that CW has stated he was coming home from work, he was sleeping on the couch and never heard a thing and he never came forward with his info until April 29th 2004 about seeing the person hurrying down the rd. If you live right there, go to the store or talk to neighbors he would have known what happened on Feb 9th and gave his info sooner. It is completely possible that someone from the area had something to do with Maura's disappearance, why not? Butch Atwood should have seen what was happening at the scene once he had backed his bus in. He was parallel with 112 facing the scene. You do not know at all that CW "had to have seen something." While I find much about CW's story and its timing to be very questionable, it's really wrong to say "he HAD to have seen something." You can't know that, and you can't state it as a fact.
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“Honesty and justice for all”
Joined: Sep 22, 2007
Comments: 338
Londonderry, NH
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Landaff, New Hampshire: First granted in 1764 as Whitcherville, the town was granted to some sixty colonists. In 1770, Governor John Wentworth, discovering that few had settled their claims, proposed using the site for Dartmouth College, but when some refused to give up their claims, chose Hanover instead. The name on the town's charter is Llandaff, for the Bishop of Llandaff in Cardiff, Wales, chaplain to King George III.
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sophie bean
Bristol, VT
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Thanks, LvsNH. So is the site between 112 and 116, or up the hill off 116 by the sharp curve? Thanks.
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Detective Columbo
Littleton, NH
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Sophie....
Sorry..I meant to say "SHOULD have seen something"
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